Sittings of November 1959 — Part II

مجالسِ نومبر ۱۹۵۹ — حصہ دوم

14 November 1959 (Saturday / 15 Jumada al-Ula 1379 AH)

Topic 139: Facing and Turning One's Back to the Qibla

Hazrat Faqir Pasha — Khwaja Hazrat's son-in-law (the husband of Hazrat Qibla's daughter) — said to the people: 'Your border is the open field.' Hazrat then said: 'Yes, Pasha! I know nothing of their nature except Allah — we see this here: a kafir becomes a Muslim. And there is one such person at a time — others in a second time, others not in another — this is the case. The application by Sarkar is this — that the command for the open field exists and the command for the enclosed building is separate' — (that is, enclosed location and hammam).

28 November 1959 (Saturday / 29 Jumada al-Ula 1379 AH)

Topic 140: Bishara Husain — Fusus al-Hikam — a Difference

Hazrat said: 'Maulwi Jami Sahib and I have one difference — he interprets Qur'anic verses, I speak the interpretation of the Shaykh.' He explained that Bishara Husain Sahib had done a Persian translation of Fusus al-Hikam and that Hazrat Qibla had responded with an Urdu translation, commentary and exegesis. Jami Sahib and this matter — all people are afraid of the Shaykh — he is not afraid. He says to them: 'I am not afraid of the Shaykh — I am afraid of them in the sense that my meaning corrects theirs (i.e., gives a correct translation, not allowing wrong translation). It is right to be cautious of the Shaykh's word from being incorrectly translated.'

December 1959 (Saturday / 29 Jumada al-Ula 1379 AH)

Topic 141: The Perfect Human (Insan-e-Kamil)

Hazrat said: 'The Perfect Human — if the Perfect Human speaks, then Allah — Allah created the human in His own image.' He continued: 'Because some say that the Perfect Human is like God — Allah is not the entirety (kull and juz') — but in terms of true existence, the analogy cannot be made — Allah is a partial reality — the Perfect Human is a creature — so who says the whole? And why is the whole to be said? — the world is the Perfect Human's smaller world — the world is also the big other party — people say the world is within the human, and Allah is within the world of the human — the Perfect Human is greater — this is also a discussion point (a single viewpoint) — then some people say the Perfect Human is better than all humans — after that, some people have lesser humanity — the Perfect Human also has levels — the Perfect Human comes to us and also our Messenger, peace be upon him — "same al-a'yan" — by this meaning we say two things to the other party (i.e., the concept is disputed by both schools) — so in this sense they can stubbornly reject it.'

"Allah Alone" — Hazrat said: 'I always speak this truth — when performing the rights of others, in my time I feel no anxiety that the rights are not being performed; I only remain with Allah. After giving the rights, where does life remain? — the passing of suffering — I am always in life, Allah is in life. (I was always in consciousness — I was not thinking that Allah is me — because I am saying: me the one who has no other existence? Where does the other's existence go? Ya tu — you, me — yes, we are — but we say this myself — yet we say honestly — Allah alone is the truth.)'